At 09:24 PM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Can anyone suggest a good "hobby" programmer for the PIC micros? >>I am looking to do some projects from the standpoint of learning the PIC. >>If anyone can provide some good pros and cons of the programmers that >>they have used, it would definately help me make a more educated choice >>in PIC programmers. Marlin P. Jones (http://www.mpja.com/) sells the ProPic programmer kit for $16.20. I've used it for 16f84. If you want to do 28 or 40 pin chips, I suggest you buy a ziptool socket for narrow-wide chips ($12 from Jameco) when you build the kit. ================================================================ Robert A. LaBudde, PhD, PAS, Dpl. ACAFS e-mail: ral@lcfltd.com Least Cost Formulations, Ltd. URL: http://lcfltd.com/ 824 Timberlake Drive Tel: 757-467-0954 Virginia Beach, VA 23464-3239 Fax: 757-467-2947 "Vere scire est per causae scire" ================================================================