Hello all, There seems to be some badwill among some of the group! I have been in the electronics industry all my life, but new to the world of PICS and only recently joined the list!....yes, one of those NEWBIES! The results of me asking for help on a " PIC12C508" to the experts has always been positive and appreciated. Looking at the [OT] electronic/scientific orientated subjects can only expand ones knowledge (and one day may be useful in a project!), I read them with great interest. For example: Uninsulated aluminium wiring in homes...scary! Then I read the posting regarding our old wiring in the UK, (Lead covered 240V ac cables) even more "shocking"-----Sometimes the younger generation may learn from such postings! However, I do believe political and Religion orientated postings should be left off the list! If someone needs advice with an interface solution, product sourcing, or idea then why not help fellow Engineers? I haven't been in the group long enough to comment on recent events on the list, all I can say is WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES AT SOMETIME! (Anybody that disagrees - well you know the rest - Bravo Uniform Lima Lima!) Thats my 50p worth! Email - KHo9196475@aol.com Kev