Offlist Tjaart > There are many of the PIClisters who just don't know >when to shut the fuck up. There is a point in an OT thread >where you have to realise that the thread is dead, or doesn't >belong on the PIClist. At this point, hold your seat, close >your eyes, *and shut the fuck up*. I think you may have passed this point without realising it on this occasion :-) Fortunately, we all are allowed to do this occasionally. I don't think Bob was driven off by Andy and co - I think perhaps you are being a bit unkind to them. No matter. They can take it. I haven't noticed too many extra A's here lately (unless I'm one of them and can't see it ;-)) and I try to be a HP most of the time. I occasionally comment less than 100% politely offlist if it seems appropriate (not with your flair of course) but try to keep things polite onlist for the general good. . We could do without losing people like Bob or you (even though you get a bit grumpy from time to time :-)) Hang in there - if we all just ignore the bits we don't like (or maybe flame them offlist ? :-)) it should settle down. Maybe time to petition Mark / Rory again for a little guidance? regards RM