This is my first [OT] posting ever, but now I really think it is time that I throw in my opinion in this threat. I have been on (and off) this list for about 3 years, I don't think myself to be a newbie anymore and I still remember my first question to the list. Andy Warren kindly and very professional gave me the help that I needed. This is why I am on this list, *to try to help* and occasional get some. I dislike subcribblers who join the list, collect the help and the don't give a shit about other peoples problem. This [OT] thread comes up every now and then, and it is amazing how many "new names" I see answering it. It is always easy to answer something that don't require any thinking. My guess is that a lot of people on the list are _to used_ to chat lines. Tjaart, Bob and others: Please stay, the list needs your skill! Any flames -> private mail !!! HŠlsningar/ Regards, Bjarne Nebelong Manager Electrical Design BINDOMATIC¨ mailto:bjarne.nebelong@bindomatic.se http://www.bindomatic.com +46-(0)8 709 58 46 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- FrŚn: Tjaart van der Walt [mailto:tjaart@CELLPT.CO.ZA] Skickat: den 27 september 1999 06:52 Till: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU €mne: Re: PRIVATE & PUBLIC Re: [OT] Thank you all > PS - I didn't take any offense - no need to forgive from me, but if it > makes you feel better, I'll forgive you. Big question (much more > important) is, "Has God forgiven you?" You _can_ be, and it isn't hard. > But at the same time, it's the hardest thing you'll ever do. ...this religious crap never fails to offend me. By succeeding in pissing Bob off enough to make him unsubscribe, you guys have pissed in many people's bath water. Well done. Let's see...Andy Warren, John Payson, Bob Blick. Hmmm. I also haven't seen anything by Dmitry over the past months either. Instead of this self-righteous attitude, the right thing would be to beg Bob to subscribble again. I met Bob about three weeks ago, and he is by far the most generous person I have ever met. If you asked Bob for it, he'd give you the shirt off his back. I have, over the past few weeks, considered unsubscribble-ing myself. There are many of the PIClisters who just don't know when to shut the fuck up. There is a point in an OT thread where you have to realise that the thread is dead, or doesn't belong on the PIClist. At this point, hold your seat, close your eyes, *and shut the fuck up*. I have also sent my share of OT's, but have always tried to keep it to no more than two or so postings. I will also not respond to any replies to this post unless it it private. By week-end, I'll probably also unsubscribble pukelist. I've met so many really knowlegdeable and really nice people, but the A/HP (asshole-to-helpfull-person) ratio is getting too high. -- Tjaart van der Walt