Anybody out there know if the ICE2000 Processor Module for 16F877/876 is available yet, its designation is PCM 16XK0? I ask this because experience teaches me that official channels are useless and vague at best. I have the ICE2000 and 12c6XX series module (sweet it is) but I am hanging out for the afore mentioned 16F877 module. My first projects using 16F877 are in and operating but were achieved with a bit too much wailing and gnashing of teeth. The ICD came to the rescue towards the end but alas was a bit lacking when it came to serial comms debugging. 20mA loop used to be a favourite of mine.. now I hate it. BTW At the risk of straying OT... the project feeds sealions at Auckland Zoo. _____________________________ Lance Allen Technical Officer Uni of Auckland Psych Dept New Zealand _____________________________