At 08:59 25/09/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 9/24/99 4:56:26 PM, ral@LCFLTD.COM writes: > ><< Normal use causes the aluminum to loosen at all connections due to thermal >contractions and expansions at the joints. >> > >Aluminum is one of those materials that "cold flows". If anyone ever tinned >a stranded copper wire and put it under a screw terminal, they know about >loose connections and cold flow. It WILL get loose, no matter what the >fixtures were designed for. > > That is only one form of cold flow. The other from is when a wire is strained hard over an edge, which can cause the insulation to be eaten through. Foergive my dislexix fingers, I have spent the weekend dinging a trench for our new storm water drain (Some 90feet by 2 to 3feet deep (Got it and the plumbing done, and filled in! wow!) Dennis