> At 07:26 PM 9/23/99 -0600, Erik wrote:
>
> This is why all of these perpetual motion machines don't work.  Ep + Ek =
> K.     TANSTAAFL. It would be possible to have perpetual motion with 0
> friction and 0 radiated energy.  While you can make these two effects very
> small, they are never 0.  Plus, you never get anything out.
>
> -Erik Reikes

Spoil-sport!  Now how could you possibly disagree with the US
Patent Office?  to wit:

http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?pn=US04151431__

Brian Aase, stirring up even more trouble ;-)