Hello Des: The TDR approach requires very fast circuitry. The swept VSWR approach using a scalar network analyzer required doing an FFT an d is picky in the step size and bandwidth, but it works without a DC path that t he TDR requires. The telephone companies use a capactive method that works quite well. You need to know the capacitance between a couple of wires for some distance. The length of an open pair can then be calculated. Of course there are already boxes that do this. In the case of a short knowing the Ohms/mile you can calculate the distance to the short. The surplus ZM-x series LCR bridges contai n instructions for using these kinds of calculations to find opens and shorts. I worked on a system that used "modal decomposition". It measured the standard unbalanced s-parameters of balanced components, converted them into unbalanced Z -parameters, and these into balanced Z-parameters, and finally into balanced s-p arametes. This was rather expensive, but it could measure the length of coax and balanced lines with millimeter resolution. Have Fun, Brooke