Okay... I'm wondering, would anybody buy this product from us if we put it into production? Basically I've gone and built a neat little intelligent in-circuit programmer / power supply / debugging tool, allowing for in-circuit programming of the 12/16/17Cxxx OTP parts, as well as in-circuit programming and erasing of 16Fxxx parts. The box can also provide power to the application circuit as well as RS232 tx/tx for debugging purposes, all through a 5-pin connector. We built it for in-house use for our biosensor telemetry work, but it could be cleaned up and produced commercially, either as a naked board or in a nice little box. As a rough guess, we could still probably make a little money on them if we sold them in the sub-$100 range... putting it midway between the DIY programmers (such as the myriad AN589-based designs) and some of the more expensive commercial offerings, as well making it a sort of poor-man's ICE system. Opinions, comments, and questions are welcome. Cheers, mcb ------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Burch | Pinnacle Technology | tel: (785) 832-8866 Project Engineer | 619 E. 8th St. Suite D | fax: (785) 749-9214 mburch@pinnaclet.com | Lawrence, KS 66044 | www.pinnaclet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------