Hi Folks, Just to follow up on the Programmer discussion - we have updated the "El Cheapo" programmer design on: http://www.rentron.com/Myke4.htm Version 3.1 will program EPROM parts as well as EEPROM/Flash. The changes centre around adding a couple of silicon diodes (to shift the +12 Volt Regulator's "Ground Reference" up by 1.4 Volts) and a PMOS FET transistor to drive the reset voltage. The addition of the PMOS transistor causes the reset logic to be complemented, so the previous software will not work with this version. The "elcheapo.exe" software has also been modified to program EPROM parts (which is a slightly different algorithm than what the EEPROM/Flash parts use). As always, I'm interested in questions and comments, myke