Hi to the list! I'm a new italian subscriber and a 16F84 fan. To Hal: Point your browser at http://www.tanzilli.com/progetti. Here you can find the YAPP (Yet Another PIC Programmer), a programmer that relies on a PIC 16F84 (so you must have someone that can program this PIC) and uses the serial port (instead of the parallel port). If you like this programmer you can download the Yapp95, a complete W95/98 software to program the PIC. Soon Max P.S. Sorry for my english.... Hal wrote: >Does anyone have a simply designed programer to program the pic chips. >I Would like to build my own programmer, Just getting started in the pic >chips I can handle building simple projects so the simpler the design >the better. I would appreciate the help. >Thanks >Hal >KF4ZXR@qsl.net >ICQ 2535945 -- -------------------- Massimo Battisti battisti@isa.it --------------------