Bob Blick wrote, quoting Edson Brusque: >> If I take the +5V and +12V (and GROUND, of course) from the PC >> power supply and use it to feed the PIC in-line programmer board >> (David Tait's SERPIC), can I cause any harm to the programmer, target >> board or the PC? > 12 volts is not enough, you really need a little bit more. Pity eh? OTOH, if you use a programmer (Picstart or Warp) which contains a switchmode converter to run from a 9V Plug Pack (Wall Wart), it should work *great* from the PC power supply. I have a lead dangling from the back of my PC with a coaxial power socket for just this purpose, taken from a drive connector "splitter". Just one trick - it isn't fused, but has an automotive (dashboard light or ceiling light) bulb in series. -- Cheers, Paul B.