Checkout TB013 "How to implement ICSP Using PIC16CXXX OTP MCUs" (aka DS91013B)- this covers in-circuit programming of OTP parts but the interface requirements would appear to be similar. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean H. Breheny [mailto:shb7@CORNELL.EDU] > Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:04 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: serial programming of the f84 > > > Hi Israel, > > You are absolutely correct, you CAN re-program the 16F84 in-circuit. > > All you have to do is provide a means of connecting at least > four of the > 16F84's pins to your programmer. If your circuit can provide > power,then > this is all you need. If your programmer needs to provide > power,then you > need to run a wire for a fifth pin,too. > > Another consideration is that the programming connections > cannot interfere > with the circuit's operation and vice versa. Usually this > means that you > will need to place a small resistor (a few K ohms) between > three of the > PIC's pins and the rest of the circuit. You then connect the > programmer > directly to the pin,and the resistor isolates the circuit. In > some cases,it > is also necessary to short the two oscillator pins together to prevent > oscillator startup. > > There is probably an App Note on this,but I don't know. Maybe > someone else > can help? > > Sean > > At 09:53 AM 9/5/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I am fairly new to the pic family of controllers and have a question. > >Can i program the 16f84-04p in-circuit? > >It is very important in my current app (micro-sized robot) > to be able to > program and debug > >while the chip is in. I hear lots of talk about removing > the chip and > inserting in a > >programmer. I cannot do that every time i need to tweek some code. > >Am i way off? Do i need a differant chip? Thank you for any help. > > > >Israel > > | > | Sean Breheny > | Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM > | Electrical Engineering Student > \--------------=---------------- > Save lives, please look at http://www.all.org > Personal page: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7 > mailto:shb7@cornell.edu ICQ #: 3329174 >