Just some musings... If the JW part is in a "box" why cover it at all? I know this is foolhardy, but I've had an uncovered JW working on my bench(s) for over a year now. With Flash becoming more popular, is it possible that JW and windowed EPROM parts will soon be a thing of the past? It would certainly eliminate the code protect problem. With the introduction of the abillity to change the ROM "on the fly", I wonder if some of the ROM space could be replaced with SRAM so you could make infinite runtime code changes any time, even from external uploads? With ever shrinking SMT parts becoming the choice of components for industry, will the fullfillment of being an electronics hobbiest slowly dissappear? There must have been some concern when valves changed to semiconductors, but that would have been a kindling of new interests. I hope the future is not just smouldering embers and thoughts of, I remember when... -- Best regards Tony http://www.picnpoke.com Email sales@picnpoke.com