> Nowadays the circuit would hardly rate > a second glance but then it was an eye opener to me. I disagree! I think it would most likely receive lots of admiring glances from modern electronics designers. The thing is, no-one would dream of implementing Pong in hardware these days: it's just crying out for a software solution. Similarly, video signal generation is just handed over to a two buck chip these days. No, I would say that for sheer ingenuity, electronics designs probably peaked back in the late '70s (i.e. before the widespread adoption of microprocessors and microcontrollers, and VLSI chips). I've seen some amazing stuff done with boards chock full of CMOS and TTL chips (plus the inevitable analogue driver board bristling with power transistors and heat sinks!). You gotta hand it to those guys, they were just brilliant. I have a pal who used to work in the games machine industry (Bell Fruit in the UK). Monstrously complex non-microprocessor designs continued on for ages in their industry. The manufactuers had access to a wide range of functional modules which they'd developed over the years and were very well tried and tested. They had a tremendous amount invested in those designs, and they had a tremendous amount invested in the expertise and training of their electronics guys. Some games machines from the late 70's and even early 80's were just packed with PCBs, every one plastered with CMOS and TTL. You can imagine that it was pretty scary to throw that lot away and start again with a microprocessor! It means a complete revamp of your entire development and manufacturing environment, plus a big churn of staff, plus another revamp of the support infrastructure........ There was also an interesting interim period when they would use EPROMS - i.e. a microprocessor support chip - in non-micro applications. For example, they would often use them to store those jazzy lighting sequences for the front panel. The EPROM was built into the TTL/CMOS circuitry, rather than sitting on an address and data bus. Ah, reminiscing is good for the soul! Or are we old farts just being boring bastards? Steve Thackery Suffolk, England. Web Site: http://www.btinternet.com/~stevethack/