Aaah! - reminiscence time. We built a video game using these in about 1975 - 1976. Yep, 22 years old would be about right. This was THE gee whizz chip to have at that stage. It had a fantastic FOUR games as I recall. I probably have it in the deep dark dungeon still (aka my Museum :-)). Before that Electronics Australia did firstly a horrendous design with TTL and several boards to do just Pong and then followed this by a cunning design using CMOS and cheating as hard as possible. AFAIR this design first introduced me to the use of CMOS gates with R/C as required as analog delays, monostables etc. This was crucial in this design as it generated TV V & H sync, bat position (horizontal only?) x 2 and the incredible moving ball with X and Y freedom - amazing! (or, it was then). Also delays needed for bat and ball width & depth etc. Nowadays the circuit would hardly rate a second glance but then it was an eye opener to me. Russell McMahon ============================= Hi! I've got a very old but brand new chip: AY-3-8500 GIMT 7706 As you see it's 22 years old! I bought it when I was an Electronics Engineering student, but never built the unit. It's yours for free if you want it. The only matter is we're (the chip and me) in Argentina (in Patagonia, at the far south), so it'll take a long by surface mail. Anyway I'll be waiting your coordinates. Ing. Marcelo M. Fornaso Vte. Lopez y Planes 285 8324 Cipolletti Argentina Te: (299)477-4469 www.sysameri.com/marcelo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco DI LEO To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:20 PM Subject: Re: PIC history, PIC1650, AY-3-8910, SP0256 et al. Question: Is there someone on the list that happen to have (and wishing to sell, even surplus) some AY-3-8500, AY-3-860x or AY-3-8765 (they are listed in the book)? These are the chips for the (very) old videogames like: balls & paddle, roadrace, motor cycle, etc. I would just *love* to have one to build an unit... Ciao Marco ---- Marco DI LEO m.dileo@bigfoot.com http://members.tripod.com/~mdileo/