For most transistors it takes around 7 volts to break down the reverse emitter/base junction so this circuit may not work at 5 volts. Maybe you can substitute a low voltage zener for the transistor. Maris At 09:13 AM 9/1/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, >as more people wished, here is the true h/w random number generator: > > White noise generator, design by dr. Imre Bartfai, 8/30/1999 > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- Vdd > | 220k 220k 5V > | +---\/\/\---+ +---\/\/\---+------+ > | | | | | | > | Ge | |\ | | +------+ \ > | EFT317 PNP +-----+----|- \ | | | / 220k > | C | | | >-+----| |----+ | |\ \ > | |/ \ +-------|+ / 47n | +-----|- \ | > +--B| 220k / | | |/ | | | >--+ > |\ \ | | 1/2 LM358 +----------|+ / | > |E | | | | | |/ \ > +----| |----+--+ + + + / 47k > | 47n | | | | 1/2 LM358 \ > \ \ \ \ \ | > 4k7 / 1M / / 2k2 1M / / 2k2 + out > \ \ \ \ \ > | | | | | > +-----------+-----+-----------------------+----+---------------- Vss > > Standard TTL can not be driven, but CMOS (and maybe LS) are o.k. > The power supply must be filtered thoroughly due to the high gain! > >Regards, >Imre > >