I recall reading in 1977 that Cal Poly used a PIC to control the animation in a Rose Float (see http://cprf.asi.calpoly.edu/History/1977.html ). As I recall, PIC stood for Pachyderm I... Controller (I don't recall what the I was). Harold Harold Hallikainen harold@hallikainen.com Hallikainen & Friends, Inc. See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.