Hej Michael Rigby-Jones. Tack fšr ditt meddelande 11:24 1999-09-01 +0100 enligt nedan: > > At 09:13 AM 9/1/99 +0200, Imre wrote: > > > White noise generator, design by dr. Imre Bartfai, 8/30/1999 > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Vdd > > > | 220k 220k > > 5V > > > | +---\/\/\---+ +---\/\/\---+------+ > > > | | | | | | > > > | Ge | |\ | | +------+ \ > > > | EFT317 PNP +-----+----|- \ | | | / > > 220k > > > | C | | | >-+----| |----+ | |\ \ > > > | |/ \ +-------|+ / 47n | +-----|- \ | > > > +--B| 220k / | | |/ | | | >--+ > > > |\ \ | | 1/2 LM358 +----------|+ / | > > > |E | | | | | |/ \ > > > +----| |----+--+ + + + / > > 47k > > > | 47n | | | | 1/2 LM358 \ > > > \ \ \ \ \ | > > > 4k7 / 1M / / 2k2 1M / / 2k2 + out > > > \ \ \ \ \ > > > | | | | | > > > +-----------+-----+-----------------------+----+---------------- > > Vss > > > Robert A. LaBudde wrote: > > > Where does the transistor collector go? Presumably to Vdd? (Unconnected as > > shown.) > > >The collector is not connected. This circuit relies on the reverse >breakdown of the Base-Emitter junction which produces a lot of noise. More >or less the same as a zener diode, which can also be very noisy, although a >transistor is usually worse (or better depending on your point of view). > >Regards > >Mike Rigby-Jones Suggestion, untested: I would think that connecting a cap between B and Vss would increase the noise output. (making a "stamp-off" pointfor the transistor noise voltage with much lower impedance than only the 220k resistor) The idea is to in next step reduce the amplifier to just one opamp stage. Regards /Morgan Morgans Reglerteknik, HŠllekŒs, 277 35 KIVIK, SWEDEN tel +46(0)414-446620, fax -70331, mrt@iname.com