According to the July press release, "Prices range from $6.16 each for the PIC18C242 to $7.41 each for the PIC18C452, all in 10,000-unit quantities. Samples are planned for August, with volume shipments expected in the third quarter. The MPLAB-C18 C compiler is expected to be available in August for $495." By my calander, 3Q99 is winding down... mostly just September to go. Any sightings? --Bob -- ============================================================ Bob Drzyzgula It's not a problem bob@drzyzgula.org until something bad happens ============================================================