> The worst engineer is the one who studied it because his/her > advisor/parents said so. > Amen to that. I worked my way through school teaching intro programming, physics labs, etc. It always scared me that students would have chosen engineering because they heard they could make money, not because they felt naked if they didn't have a screwdriver with them. It certainly doesn't help that academic institutions think having shop classes is beneath them. I know of one employer whose job interview for software engineers included setting them down in front of a computer at 9am, suggesting they write something 'fun', and at 5PM see what they've written. -- Anniepoo Need loco motors? http://www.idiom.com/~anniepoo/depot/motors.html