Hi all, Just spreading a bit of excitement. I just rewrote PicNPro's PIC programming algorithm and it can now program and verify 16C74's in just under 8 seconds. I reckon that's not too bad considering it's over the serial port at 19200 baud, and running under Win95 :-) Now, the hard part. Updating the entire source code. -- Best regards Tony http://www.picnpoke.com Email sales@picnpoke.com