>Ahh, i think i see the problem... that isnt goudy. So I learned. I _found_ the font the guy told me he used. Now I want to smack him! >You have a fat helvetica style here. Yes, it looks like you're right! Only problem is... I only have std and skinny helv on my machine :-( You (ANYBODY??!!) have a Helv Fat one in True Type? Thanks! Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz Life is what we do to prepare for Eternity ------------------------------------------------------------------ andy@rc-hydros.com http://www.rc-hydros.com - Race Boats andy@montanadesign.com http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics ==================================================================