At 08:09 20.8.1999 -0700, you wrote: > I fully understand the need for smaller packages and the dwindling market >for DIPs but I would be willing to pay for DIP samples for evaluation. It's >getting to the point where you have a hard time finding even low frequency >analog chips in DIP packages... I recently requested a voltage reference >sample and I received four samples in a TSOP package even though it was >suppose to be available in a DIP... The lack of DIPs is really a problem. But I can say, that it is possible (and funny sometines) to do prototyping on SMDs. Couple of months ago, I almost converted to SMDs and I can say that I am happy now, because I do not need to drill holes in PCBs or buy expensive universal boards. When I am prototyping, I firstly make a design in Eagle, that I make fast (not optimized) PCB for SMD components. I print the PCB on laser printer, etch it either in my company or at home (in bathroom) and I am ready to solder. The only thing which I bought specially for it is a hot air solder/desolder station (around 1000 USD). With the hot air, it is possible to change parts with different values very quickly. When I need to add ICs, I simply solder thin teflon isolated wires on SMD parts and I can than solder those wires directly to PCB traces. For really small parts, like uMAX and TSOP, I am using small PCB rectangles with etched traces and I am soldering wires to the traces. Best regards PavelK ************************************************************************** * Pavel KorenskyΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * * DATOR3 LAN Services spol. s r.o.ΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * * Styblova 13, 140 00, Prague 4, Czech Republic ΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * *ΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * * PGP Key fingerprint:Κ F3 E1 AE BC 34 18 CB A6Κ CC D0 DA 9E 79 03 41 D4 * *ΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * * SUMMA SCIENTIA - NIHIL SCIREΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚΚ * **************************************************************************