Is anyone aware of a stand-alone, brain-dead, PIC chip cloner ? I'm looking for something that can be used in a small production environment, by unskilled workers. What I invisage is a socket for a master part and a ZIF for the part to be programmed. Put the master into the socket and the device to be programmed in the ZIF. Press the button and wait for the light to come on. Put the next chip in. No PC required. In this instance I am looking for a 16C54 cooker but I don't recall seeing anything along these lines. Has anyone else ? ====================================================== Steve Baldwin Electronic Product Design TLA Microsystems Ltd Microcontroller Specialists PO Box 15-680, New Lynn http://www.tla.co.nz Auckland, New Zealand ph +64 9 820-2221 email: steveb@tla.co.nz fax +64 9 820-1929 ======================================================