On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 08:23:16PM -0400, Bob Drzyzgula wrote: > Well, I drew out one adapter design, to see where we were > in the ballpark. I designed a simple 28-pin SOIC to DIP OK, so thinking it through again, trying to account for more costs... Suppose that one figured that it would be possible to sell 5000 28-pin SOIC-to-DIP adapters, in 500 sales of ten per bag. Assume additionally that: * It will take two prototype runs of 30 units each to get it right, at a cost of $228 per run on a three-day turn, or $456. * A single production order for 5000 units would be made at a cost of $1600 plus $125 NRE. (this is at $0.32 each, the difference from the previous quote being in (a) the quantity and (b) Wet solder mask instead of LPI.) * Each board would be supplied with 30 pins (two to mess up), so 150,000 pins would need to be purchased. Using Digi-key's 5000-unit price for the pins I quoted before (ED5055-ND), this would cost $4725.0. At these volumes, the unit price may be significantly different. * Someone would of course have to bag these things, with a board and 30 pins. I don't know how much such services run (perhaps Don McKenzie knows), but I'll throw in a WAG of $0.25 per bag, or $1250 total. Adding this up, 5000 boards, each bagged with 30 pins, might have an aggregate cost of around $8156, or $1.63 per kit, unless I've made some horrendous arithmetic mistake. If you leave the pins as an exercise for the customer, and forgo the bagging cost, the core cost for the board would be around $0.36 each. If one buys in batches of 1000, this cost per board rises to $0.70 plus the amortized cost of the prototypes. Don't know what to make of this other than that Wagner's guess that one could do this for around a $1 per board may not be all that far off, as long as one can find the cash to do a run of at least 1000 or so, and can wait for a long turnaround in production. Now, there's a QFP-80 package (Hitachi H8S/2134: square, 0.65mm pitch) I'd like to adapt into a PGA for prototyping. I'll probably try to design a board to do that, but then it gets to be a real pain as far as I can tell, because one then has to mix hard metric and inches on the same board; I've not found this to be the easiest thing to do in Eagle. Anyone done much of this? --Bob -- ============================================================ Bob Drzyzgula It's not a problem bob@drzyzgula.org until something bad happens ============================================================