Wouldn't it make sense for the IC manufacturer to stock a bunch of inexpensive "converter boards" that they could use to solder in their own itty bitty ICs ON DEMAND? The user might have to pay for this service, but it would greatly ease the prototyping situation. I imagine it would not be hard at all for an IC company to set up such a DIP conversion station where a few workers would solder the requested ICs to their respective DIP boards. It might even become company policy to produce a certain number of DIP-converted ICs and keep them in stock whenever a new IC becomes available. As the stock became depleted they could determine what kind of demand they have for that particular IC in its DIP-converted form, and adjust the stock accordingly. This is a win-win situation for both the IC manufacturer and the buyer. The manufacturer is going to sell thousands of their "regular" itty bitty ICs for every one they mount on a DIP or SIP converter board that the designer can then use to evaluate and prototype the end product. Even though the demand for the DIP-converted IC will be very very small compared to the total number of that IC produced and sold, still they would not have those BIG sales without first having the product designed into an actual product. And so it makes great sense for the IC manufacturer to make it easy to design their ICs into a product. That design process involves the building of test circuits and prototypes. Any company that provides the engineer with products they can easily breadboard will be way ahead of the game. And if ONE company started to do this and met with great success, then the others would probably end up doing it, too. Since the manufacturer would be buying the DIP converters in very large volume, their added cost would be reasonably small, and they could simply pass that cost on to the buyer.... or absorb the cost just as they do now when they provide us with free samples. Maybe some company like MAXIM might consider doing such a thing for the sake of keeping their customers happy and coming back for more. Fr. Tom McGahee