>There is no way you could run any processor without a cooling device I don't >think. Certainly not a SLOT chip, they have fans built onto the chip. You >could replace the fan with a peltier device but these chew a wack of power >which is bad in the car. But it'd be nice for the home model to have silence >(although I'm not sure how quiet Peltiers are). Also, MP3 decoding should >take the same ammount of processor regardless of platform but of course the >processing overhead of Windoze will crank abit of heat. But just MP3 >decoding will push even a low end pentium. I tried using just a large heatsink on both a P90 and a K5-75. It works fine at room temperature with the covers off, but inside a case there's just no way. It locked up after 20 minutes. If you used a peltier device without a fan you would need a very significant heatsink. The sound of a processor fan is about the same as a hard disk anyway. Full decoding is possible on a 486 or 586 @ 120 mhz but almost anything will cause it to glitch. A K5-75 or Pentium 75 is perfectly happy. I can play tunes while shoving files to the player about 1 megabyte/second through ethernet, and it is smooth with a P90, and glitches a bit with a K5-75. Partly that might be due to bus speed, 50mhz on the 75 and 60mhz on the 90, since it's a throughput problem(or maybe just need to "nice" the ftp task). If you need a power supply you can copy mine: http://www.bobblick.com/bob/projects/yamm/ If you use a motherboard with on-board audio, you might want to look at my fix for crappy sound: http://www.bobblick.com/bob/computer/cmi8330.html It applies to the cmi8330 sound chip and also the HT1869 which is the same thing. Cheers, Bob