From: Brent Brown +ADw-brent.brown+AEA-clear.net.nz+AD4- I have seen a couple of postings lately on the PIC list and Philips list with the reference to the Atmel list - but I can't find it+ACE- Can you please tell me how to get onto it? I went to their web site and subscribbled to the newsletter but it dosen't seem to be the same thing. Thanks in advance, Brent Try these - Back in September last year PaulB write that Glen Jones wrote - +AD4- is there a mailing list similar to this one for discussing Atmel's +AD4- products? The Atmel list is very quiet (perhaps an advantage), but useful. Signup data at http://www.ip.co.za/people/kalle/atmel.htm+ACM-list . The Motorola HC11 list, which fields most of the practical HC12 and HC16 stuff as well, and is tenuously related to HC05 stuff, can be subscribed by sending to mailto:Majordomo+AEA-freeware.mcu.motsps.com with the command in the message body subscribe mot-68hc11-apps +ADw-your-address+AD4- It is +ACo-fairly+ACo- busy+ADs- perhaps half the traffic of this. THIS NEXT ONE MAY BE OUT OF DATE For the Philips 8051 derivative list (comes in digest form+ADs- some advantages, some disadvantages), you send a SUBJECT line command +ACI-subscribe+ACI- to mailto:forum-request+AEA-philipsmcu.com RM