Peter van Hoof wrote: > > [snip] > > > 2. support for 3rd party programmers, esp. the direct from > > > parallel port kind. > > This is a possibility. Whoever makes these, contact me at > > darrel.johansen@microchip.com and we can discuss. I know > > the PICSTART Plus interface has been hacked --with that data, > > just about anyone could hook into the interface. > [snip] > > most(all?) parallel port programmers are based on AN589 with some > variations: > > inverters instead of buffers (so you would need the option to be able to set > normal or inverted outputs. > > different lines used for outputs and inputs, a nice example of what > parameters you would need and how to present this to the user is written by > Nigel Goodwin "wpicprog" that you can download from > http://www.lpilsley.demon.co.uk/programs.htm > > Peter van Hoof Just as an aside, this is going to be pretty hard for some programmers (Example: The Needham's EMP-20 here), I suspect it doesn't use anything like the example you mention Some others (The Parallax unit here) are pretty do-able (though easy enough to move to a serial port based unit.) Mark