I have an "Tait Style" programmer (slightly modified for ICSP - added some diodes...) and I was desperately seeking for some software that I can use to program new F877s. And I found it. It's Bojan Dobaj's P16PRO. It can be customized for any parallel programmer you can find out there and for new PICMicros as well. You can find it at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/9620/ Miro Miroslav Hibler mhibler@usa.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1