> I think that any programmer able to program PIC16F84/16C84 > (eg. http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab/picprog/picprog.html) is able to programm > 16C877. I had a cheapy no-name programmer for the 16F84, and it won't program the 16C558 Had to get a new one. -- Anniepoo Need loco motors? http://www.idiom.com/~anniepoo/depot/motors.html