Actually, Tjaart's web page is not "The Official" web page, he's good enough to do that voluntarily, so I refer people to him, happily - anything he does, Jory doesn't have to & I don't have to do. Same as Iversoft handles the archiving (Far as I know, they do so completely voluntarily ), and I'm happy to point people at their site also. Nothing's wrong with voluntary anything, in my book - including webrings, and so forth. (If you get yourself thoroughly lost, here in the USA, the search for you will be mostly staffed by volunteers - usually fairly well-trained volunteers, mind you And the Red Cross etc. that help so many in disaster zones are basically volunteer groups...) Mark James Newton wrote: > Anyway, it strikes me as stupid that a group as large and dedicated as the > > PICLIST has a home page under someone's personal site and relies on the > > bureaucracy of a major educational institute for changes to its handbook.