I would have to agree with you Graham. I guess if we stuck a bunch of people in a room and said they have to talk about one specific thing, they WILL eventually start talking about other stuff. Humans are the great debaters! It's inevitable that we'll argue -- either about which is better, PIC or Scenix -- or religion, politics, etc. And there's LOTS to be learned from OT posts. I'm sure my opinion won't add much to this topic (boy, low self-esteem huh!?) but it's worth a try. Tim Hamel In a message dated 7/28/99 12:23:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, g.daniel.invent.design@XTRA.CO.NZ writes: > Perhaps the list is actually popular *because* of the OT threads and > would otherwise have dwindled further. Many subscribers are competant > programmers and achieve their goals easily without expert assistance > such as Scott has offered. > > Tolerance for other's viewpoints is common in most long term piclist > subscribers > > regards, > Graham Daniel. >