At 11:04 27/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >the light. Is there another way to tell what the color is without being able to >see color on these lights that all all in one 'eye'? I don't know if there is or not, but one of the things mentioned was how easy it was to do different shapes- which could be very useful to the sight-impaired, and also make the sign more noticeable to all drivers- the green could be a flashing or 'moving' arrow, red could be a solid X, and amber could be a flashing X. Something like that anyway- seems a shame to have the capacity to make shapes and not use it! Nigel