Ha, go to New York.. You wouldn't believe how many stop lights I sailed through before I noticed those little posts on the right with the signals on them. I haven't seen those in ANY of the cities in NC, SC, or Virginia that I normally drive in. Was so tuned in to looking for lights overhead that I completely didn't see the signals not being where they were expected.. Want to try something fun? When the road's empty and you have lots of room, lay your head over sideways and try to drive. Be expecting to go outside your lane if you have any curves. You'll get a real good feel for just how locked in your brain's visual system is to the normal horizontal/vertical attitude. Andy Kunz wrote: > > >Hmm, it's certainly possible here - traffic lights here are *always* red > >on top, amber in the middle, green bottom. I have seen some in the USA that > >are arranged horizontally - I'm not sure if there is a standard for that.