you haven't proven the light's lit by measuring bulb current, only that there's a current path through the bulb or socket to ground. And, for what it's worth, I thought a lot of new cars HAD LED turn signals etc. Most of the stop lights here are LEDs now. And somebody who knows tells me they're making the railroad signals LED. -- Anniepoo Need loco motors? http://www.idiom.com/~anniepoo/depot/motors.html