In a message dated 7/25/99 2:48:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis@RDD.NECA.NEC.COM.AU writes: > Came to die! Oh now come on That's what all atheists say! > > > > > >When people were crucified they died from exhaustion and lack of > >oxygen(suffocation). To breath in they hadto push down on their feet to > take > >the tension off their arms so they were able to breath in. When a person > got > >too tired from loss of blood, lack of water and exposure they took less and > >less pressure off their arms so they slowly suffocated as their breaths got > >shallower and shallower. > > > > Suffocation, don't agree on that, as expansion via the diaphram and stomch > mussles would be more than enough for air. Try it some time. When you're stretched out, there isn't enough slack for diaphragm to fill up your lungs. You know how when you breath in, your stomach gets larger? Well, if the skin is pulled tight, there isn't enough slack to allow this expansion. Scholars have proved this, it's scientific. Tim H. >