lets understand something... FIRST - the list at MITVMA does not hold and save old messages, for example the ones from July 7th... it just relay them to the list members, and then get rid of them, right? SECOND - if this "claire.a2000.nl [62.108.1.21]" is sending to the list server at MITVMA to relay to us, it means that that a2000.nl is retaining those messages and somehow resending to the list, right? THIRD - why don't block the messages from claire.a2000.nl ? until this situation is solved? I already have hundreds of repeated messages, and this is not funny. This is much worse than a bad thead about politics, religion or race, since you can not stop it just yelling "Hell Stop!!!" Wagner.