the user point. Well perhaps we can sway that a bit. > > The first point is "Why have a connector" 1) It's not known until install time what sort of thing is being plugged into the connector. The connector is a standard i/o control for any of several sensor s/ controllers. 2) It would be extremely inconvenient to install the sensors if they were perman ently attached 3) The unit gets removed repeatedly during the install/setup process. Each occas ion would mean re-running 6 cables. > The second is "Who will access the connector" End user, who is completely untrained. > The last point "How many times do you expect the connection to be made" far less than 100 > > Of course that is only a short list and many other points are to always be > considered. Yes - I guess "will the cable be tugged?" should be on there - obviously it's cr azy to smt mount a connector whose cable is attached to a person walking around. > The connector mounted on the hard disk is a classic example, How many times > is it removed during normal service? What sort of environmental conditions > does it incur? Perhaps it is in one of the best locations. I used to telecommute 3 days, come in 2, and solved the "it's on the other compu ter" problem by having an external hard drive (this on a mac) that traveled with me twice a day between SF and Cupertino. Wonder what the design expectancy is for DB connectors? They were originally a modem to terminal connection. -- Anniepoo Need loco motors? http://www.idiom.com/~anniepoo/depot/motors.html