You're right. There's also a lot of 'third-party' business around chips that we could say are making money around others work. I think that these kind of companies are to be respected when they have done substantial work for themselves(original ideas) Fortunately is not difficult to identify these 'fishy' copycats companies. My $0.02. > hmmm... did you guys see the "Pirates of Silicon Valley" movie recently > at TNT? it is the "possible" story of Microsoft and Apple companies... > there you can see Steve Jobs receiving "for free" the user graphics > interface (GUI) from Xerox (including the "mouse interface") what made > Bill Gates very nervous (since Bill had only DOS, well, he didn't, but > anyway he sold it to IBM...and then went to find out who had it... > funny) and magically after few business agreements between Microsoft and > Apple, where Microsoft would produce some software to Apple (First > MacIntosh), Microsoft should gain access to Apple "windows" to do the > job, and then again, magically, Japan Nippon Electric Corporation (NEC) > came up with a nice Windows Machine... and it was not Steve who sold to > them...and at the movie Bill made that flat face that means "and so > what?"...... it means what? That we can not purchase Microsoft > Windows anymore because it "could" be pirate too? or even NEC machines? > > Now... I am totally neutral... , but, suppose I take a Atmel 80 Mips > RISC core, costing $1.80 a piece in 100k quantity, build an imbedded > package with a PIC code interpreter, seal it in a DIP28 package and sell > it as a 100% PIC compatible unit for only $2.30, and as a benefit it > still running at 30Mips ... what is it? Piracy? hmmm... > > Second point... If I write a book about poems... ...yeah, well, but > in real I do not copy them from the original authors, but instead I just > point their books and pages... my book would be like an index, without a > single poem word copied from the authors... people could buy my book > because they would have a pointer where to read those poems... is it > piracy? ... because I am doing money with other people's work!!! > > those lines on the floor are not very well traced, isn't? > > ------------------------------------ netQ http://virtuaweb.com/picprog "Home of amateur PIC programmers..." -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzV38BkAAAEEALfWv9j3f+tZ+z2IW+2o9Ebx4bUGnHjHPqIe0a6yVKawaeV/ Y4I6L2/A0ddbVMG8+qJ0MvHNkr3DzYkpW+hTl9zAzXkKBdZ3GA5bbvot7entl/O2 YDtRWUV730koxBo5iFFUbJH5kbmkox+h3znj34zPnZNWzNaqOAwol3wABfBNAAUT tBxOZXRRIDxuZXRxdWFrZUBpbm5vY2VudC5jb20+ =0bVU -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----