At 12:46 19/07/99 -0700, you wrote: >Can any list members suggest sources for an assembler, >simulator, and homebrew programmer for 8pin eeprom pic's. I do quite a lot of work with 8051's and want to test the water with a simple project before I buy >good tools. >Malcolm Moorhouse Try UMPS at http://www.vmdesign.com (assembler/disassembler/simulator), the next revision will connect to emulator and programmer. Regards, Philippe.