Malcolm Moorhouse wrote: > > Can any list members suggest sources for an assembler, > simulator, and homebrew programmer for 8pin eeprom pic's. I do quite a lot of work with 8051's and want to > test the water with a simple project before I buy > good tools. Microchip's MPLAB is free. http://www.microchip.com So is The Engine. http://www.picnpoke.com/engine.html Go even simpler, use a 16F84 to start with. (No erase delays) -- Best regards Tony 'The Engine' - Design your own programmer. http://www.picnpoke.com Email picnpoke@cdi.com.au