I'm willing to assume that such high end cards consist of scads of shielding and high-end dsp algorithms to remove noise. But then you have to ask what the definition of noise is...;-) In my mind, it's much like the color/resolution debate for video cards. Sure, you *could* have 72 bits per pixel, but the human eye really can't distenguish that from a picture composed with 24 bits per pixel. But the difference between 1024x768 and 1600x1200 is still quite apparent. So I can understand the 96kHz. But I have to agree that 24bit and 36 bit are probably overkill. It would be interesting to do a range of sine waves at the different rates to see if people can tell a difference. -Adam (of course, you need the 36bits per sample to catch the special sound made with tube amps...) Bernhard Kraft wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, marquis De wrote: > > >now in the pro-audio world we have 24-bit, 96khz commonly, and in the > >extreme high end we have 32-bit, upwards of 376 khz! some SSL sound > >boards cost a million dollars in change! > > Just one thing to say to this: > A "line" level audio signal is about +-0.5V ... If you have a 16-bit > soundcard the lowest voltage difference which you could produce on the > "line"-line :) is about 1V / 65535 = 0.0153mV ... So I don't understand > why to buy a supra-all-featuring-xx-bit soundcard because in such a noisy > environment like a PC you have noise voltages on every kind of wire which > are a LOT more than 0.0153mv !!! > > experiment: > Take a piece of wire, make a small coil (a few windings would do it .. 4 > or so), put it into your pc, attach a oscilloscope or a RMS meter to it, > look ! > > I think you wouldn't even have to make a coil. > > As I heard on a Analog Devices seminar it hasn't much sense to make D/A > converters for more than 16-bit because at least the 2 LSB's will just > consist of noise. > > comments? > =================================================================== > Kraft Bernhard aka. Krufti /"\ > ICQ# 3672982 \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN > X AGAINST HTML MAIL > / \ > ===================================================================