Bob Blick wrote: >It is a very professional product, so you should not give up. The code it >generates is superior to the cheaper alternative. Far superior. I'll second that. It's an _excellent_ product, and I continue to be pleasantly surprised at how powerful it really is. But it's a bit daunting for beginners. I learned C through Mix Software's Power C compiler (it's for the PC), which costs only $29 and has an excellent 660-page printed manual. Check it out at http://www.mixsoftware.com BTW, I gave up on trying to integrate a fairly large project (many source files) in Hi-Tech PIC-C with the MPLAB IDE. Instead, I run the HPDPIC IDE, MPLAB and CodeWarrior concurrently, with a project in HPDPIC and an "empty" project open in MPLAB which simply points to the object file HPDPIC is generating. I edit in CodeWarrior, compile in HPDPIC, and download and debug with a PICMASTER in MPLAB. I find this to be a very fast way to work, because it draws on the strengths of the individual products (CW's editor, HPDPIC's project management environment, MPLAB's debugging windows). ___________________________________________ | Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@netcom.com | | standard disclaimers apply | |___________________________________________|