Depends if you are talking surface mount or thru hole. Ever lifted a leg on a TQ144, and soldered a wire to it? Our rework gals here do *pure* magic. -----Original Message----- From: Donald Riedinger [mailto:drr9@HOME.COM] Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 2:41 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT] [Way-OT] Technicians versus Engineers I have heard there are engineers who can solder. Are they at the top of the heap or the bottom?