I'm in New Zealand. Is practical work a requirement for the US EE degree? I gained a BE (Electrical) in 1973 (+ACE-) (and an ME on a second pass some years later) and a requirement for the BE was I think 400 hours (maybe more) in +ACI-electrical practical work in an approved establishment+ACI-. There was also a lesser requirement for a small mechanical component. I was a +ACI-bursar+ACI- for the New Zealand Post Office who provided a wide range of practical experience. In my case I learned to strip wire with my teeth at an early age and decided to stop doing it sometime during my BE degree :-)) - teeth cost far more than wire strippers. I also started playing with electrical stuff of sorts at about age 10 AFAIR. Having a practical electrically based childhood is probably a good way to combine the practical aspects with the theoretical material picked up in an EE degree. University taught me some practical stuff but having a food grounding already was a major gain. >From childhood/teenage years I recall with various fondness such things as hand cranked telephone generators, old valve radio sets scavenged for parts, OC640 transistors (my 1st one cost 1 pound second hand - about +ACQ-2US now and probably about +ACQ-US20 plus then+ACE-) (pre OC70/71 AFAIR), 1 transistor broadcast band transmitters (using an AC126 +ACI-audio+ACI- transistor as I recall) discovering amateur radio and more. From: Craig Lee +ADw-clee+AEA-ATTCANADA.NET+AD4- +AD4-I've found that engineers imported from other parts of the globe like +AD4-Malaysia, +AD4-Germany, Russia, U.K, Australia, New Zealand, etc., seem to have the proper +AD4-theoretical background, and can also compete on the practical level. +AD4- +AD4-So what is our educational system doing wrong, and what are non-North +AD4-American +AD4-educators doing right? It MAY be that there is a correlation between those who decide to travel and those who are most practically orientated. Now, flame suit on. No insult intended here - In another but related area. My wife has a BSc in zoology and at one stage ran a small agricultural agronomy lab team as a technician. She noted that fairly consistently the people with technician training (NZ certificate in Science here) were less flexible at performing new work and took much longer to do useful work when a new job was assigned than those with BSc training). I realise that that is a large generalization and I'm not trying to propose on this basis that a university degree is superior per se. It may be that in our (NZ) case it at that stage reflected the abilities of the people who undertake the particular types of study. Tech institutes were very practically orientated and often this path allowed you to get income sooner than with a university degree. regards Russell McMahon