My experience with TQFP clips....they work once or twice, but then it always seems that they don't make very good contact with at least one or two pins. For debugging these parts, I just solder wires to a header and tape it to the board on top of a chip or what have you. how about....pads, with individual staking pins, or just wires and clip after? -----Original Message----- From: Dave Johnson [mailto:djohnson@SIRIUS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 3:12 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: In Circuit Programming question Harold Hallikainen wrote: >How about a DIP clip or something similar to just clip onto the >chip I'm using the TQFP package for the PIC (tiny), and I haven't seen any clips for that size. Perhaps they exist and I just haven't seen them? Digikey doesn't have them, anyway. Dave Johnson