Oh Boy,, I'll probably get kicked off the list for this but.... What the 'ell are you talking about Mr. Wagner? "20 more technical years of heavy learning, hard working and reading, before I would dare to ask him any help at all." That would make him 44 years old, A BSEE, probably a MS in EE or equivalent, divorced or living with a very unhappy spouse, before you would be able to ask him about 28 gauge phone wire? That leaves me out since I have only 18 years professional experience, A BSEE, on the way to a MS in CE. This is certainly unrealistic. Sorry I can't help you then. Whew! "He intercepted my intentions trying to shut down my plans. My line of questions was just to show him that he knows nothing about it, and trying to get the direction to the coiled phone line shelve... he failed in this job too." Yes he did. He lost a $2.50 sale and had someone laugh in his face. Didn't sound like he shut down your plans. Safety wise, he tried to prevent what appeared to him as a unsuitable use of phone cord. I agree. "First of all, I would never choose to work in something I don't know all about, If I need to do it, I will never try to compete knowledge with a stranger. Fast as a bullet I would try to learn about my job, day and night, weekends, drink it, sleep on it, eat it if necessary, until I could recognize that I really know what I am talking about." Really, do you completely understand EVERYTHING about engineering? One way that I learn is by actively engaging in conversation with those who are more knowledgeable. If there is one thing I have learned, just about the time you THINK you know a subject well, a completely NEW topic appears and what used to valid is no longer true (speaking of 1Ghz system design that I do). What I have learned in the last 2 years is nothing short of amazing, but I balance knowledge with tolerance and perhaps a little humility. You may try that, it works! "That store sells electro/electronic devices and components, not shoes, not bread, not flowers." You forgot Toys, cell phones, telephones, car speakers, antennas, bad parts :), etc.. Are you a complete expert in all these areas too? Are you expecting anyone with 2 years experience in selling these items to be knowledgeable to your standards? "I am tired to try to excuse ignorance as being a human sociologic nature to be stupid, it is not anymore, we can not compare ourselves to cattle anymore." May I suggest you go to a distributor or use the phone to talk to an applications engineer so you don't waste your valuable time at Radio Shack? Leave the ignorant cattle be. "I am stupid enough to live the way I do just because I am alive and this is my destiny, I never asked to born"..."A person that works with electronics can decide between watch MTV channel or" .... "to turn the life of dumb people better "...."the same people that call those scientists and engineers crazy and make jokes with their knowledge and dedication." Sounds like a little bit of right-wing us-Vs-them rederic here. Remember, he didn't laugh in your face... and from your public response to my letter, you are the one making jokes with the salesman knowledge and dedication. Sounds like a hypocrite to me. "It looks like that we have two kinds of human species on the planet, the ones who really took care of things, and the other bunch that just lay down and live as cattle." In Your Words then, Mooooo.... duh, super cool, dude! "We MUST help them at any cost...they deserve it. THEN DO IT! Please! Bitching about a minimum wage salesperson who is working for other goals besides yours is not going to help! May I recommend Prozac? I must apologize if I have in some way bruised your ego, or tarnished your reputation by questioning your absolute knowledge. You obviously represent the finest, most dedicated, more talented individual I could ever imagine. I am sure that society is blessed by your gift and hard study. If it were not for people like you, the lesser people (like the rest of us) seeking smaller goals would have no one to look up to. Next time I need my A/C or car fixed, I'll write you ... NOT. ..Mark...