On Sat, Jun 26, 1999 at 12:30:39PM -0800, Peter wrote: > > This shows the whole problem with 'free' software; the writer gets no money > from it so there is no ongoing support. After his initial burst of > enthusiasm he moves to other things or goes back to school. And on-going > support IS needed. Actually, it shows the whole problem with software distributed without source code. The same problem occurs with products from failed or otherwise terminated businesses, as well as abandoned products from on-going concerns; it is not exclusive to free software. The main difference between free and commercial software, when distributed without source, is that free software tends to rattle around on ftp sites long after support has ceased to be available, which often results in confusion or disappointment for people like Juan. Abandoned commercial shrink-wrap software on the other hand, rattles around in discount bins for years, frequently causing monetary loss in addition to the disappointment. Commercial software sold only by mail order or web download is probably the least likely to cause problems for new customers... it is only customers who bought before the business closed who are harmed. Imagine the buyer of a copy of CorelCAD 1.0, for example. That product was first made available, with much fanfare, several years ago, and sold at the low price of $500 (IIRC). I had my office buy a copy, but it was buggy as hell and I never got much use out of it (it would crash an burn on a regular basis, usually at just about the point that you had invested a couple of hours in a drawing). But they never released any patches, they never released any later versions, and they eventually sold it -- I think it was to IMSI, the TurboCAD people. The buyer tore the product apart and used all the good bits of the code in new products, but the product formerly known as CorelCAD is totally dead and gone. I've since bitten the bullet and gottten my office to get me a copy of AutoCAD, and I've never looked back. Still, I have on occasion seen copies of the original CorelCAD showing up in discount bins; a buyer of that product would surely be greatly disappointed, and would be out the $50 or whatever it had sold for, since shrink-wrap return policies would preclude getting the money back. Don't get me wrong... I'm no GPL bigot. I am perfectly happy to buy and use commercial software, and in several cases have proposed the purchase of even some very expensive commercial software such as AutoCAD and Borland's JBuilder Enterprise Edition. Wouter's JAL is probably a good example of a sourceless free product that continues to be well-supported, so there are counterexamples all around. However, in all my years in the computer support profession, I have learned to be very leery of software that does not come with source code. In general I am extremely reluctant to us any such product as the basis for something that will need to work for more than a couple of years, because, in my experience, the chances are very high that such a dependence will cause problems down the road. It matters not whether the product is free or is sold for money. --Bob -- ============================================================ Bob Drzyzgula It's not a problem bob@drzyzgula.org until something bad happens ============================================================